Jay Dyer on the Fourth Hour of Alex Jones breaks down the role the CIA and elites have had in cultural creation, including guiding the arts into a post-modernist sludge where there is no objective standard of beauty.
He also discusses the use of the fine art world for money laundering, recruiting actors to be spies, and even degrading the arts to pull the populace into sin and debauchery.
The ultimate aim of this manipulation of the arts is social control.
Finally, he talks about cancel culture focusing on the recent allegations made against Russell Brand. He was a self-admitted sex addict on womanizer. As soon as he started speaking out against the Cabal, they started looking for women willing to go on record with sexual abuse claims.
Link: https://www.banned.video/watch?id=650e19d976dd319a51a1be2e
Audio: https://www.podbean.com/media/share/dir-nc2ws-1af9e61b
Transcript
At that time, you had a lot of famous figures that were getting money and were funded by this CIA front. Does that mean that people like Jackson Pollock, Andy Warhol, does that mean that Jackson Pollock and Andy Warhol were secret CIA agents? They don’t have to know who’s funding their artworks or what the cutout is that’s really pushing a lot of this. And it wasn’t just abstract and degenerate art, it was also classical symphonies, anything that would project the ideas of Western civilization. But the problem is that they started, as I said, experimenting with pushing postmodern art and really wild abstract art. And the idea that there’s no order, symmetry, boundaries, it’s absolute and unbounded freedom. And ironically, even Ayn Rand, of all people, had a really interesting critique of this, which you might think, well, Ayn Rand’s kind of a classic libertarian-minded person. Wouldn’t she support this against the Soviet approach?
Well, even she realized in her book on aesthetic theory, which I actually recommend, it’s really good, she has all the same critiques that you just heard me make. She talks about how aesthetic theory, for example, can’t be divorced from order, harmony, symmetry, principles of geometry, right? You can’t remove those from the arts. For example, music, right? If music doesn’t follow certain orders and patterns, right, it becomes cacophonous. It becomes noise. But that’s exactly what happens to music over the decades after the cultural revolution. Music becomes more and more degraded, more and more noise, more and more cacophony, and more and more based around social engineering and programming, right?
It’s debased, and it’s debased on purpose. And this is what so many people have a hard time understanding, they can’t figure out. They think that this is too conspiratorial, even though it’s in all of these books, it’s not even up for debate. I mean, you can go all the way back to ancient empires, go back to Plato. Plato talks about the need to, I think the dialogue is Ion. And then there’s another in the Republic, he says that the artists have to be censored and have to be controlled by the state because the power of art is such that it can foment or foster revolution.
That means that the state or the super state can study it and also weaponize it. And that’s exactly what happened in the 20th century with many of these movements such as Frankfurt School, such as what the CIA is doing with the Congress for Cultural Freedom. And so now you have this technology of utilizing the arts.
And so fast forward to what we have then today with the much touted WikiLeaks revelation of spirit cooking with Marina Abramovich, which if you remember, she did a Reddit AMA. And she did explain that her perspective on spirit cooking was that it was a kind of intentional magical operation or using the will to affect what you would like to happen in the world. She cited kind of Crowley and type of Aleister Crowley type stuff as her view of what performance art is and what art so called is.
And that’s where we begin to see all of these manifestations of the bizarre in the arts, and it gets weirder and weirder and weirder, because the idea is that arts are really the forefront of culture revolution to remove all boundaries. So what is art? Simply the removal of boundaries, simply the transgression of all boundaries. And so it can no longer be about beauty, symmetry, order, harmony, synthesis, symphonia, etc. It can’t be about them anymore, has to be about the perpetual pushing the envelope and new levels of shock and awe.
And this means then that there is no such thing as art. Anything is potentially art, pushing the envelope and new levels of shock and awe. And so this means then that there is no such thing as art. Anything is potentially art, and then nothing is art. And so it really just becomes this front, I guess you could say, because this is why, by the way, a lot of the art world, the high art world, is famously known to be a vehicle for a bunch of money laundering.
You have drawings of garbage, pieces of trash, bananas taped to a wall that sells for a million dollars, right? Well, that’s just quite obviously a way to avoid taxes and this kind of stuff. And pretty much there’s famous documentaries on Netflix that have delved into this for years. So it’s very well known that the art world is a front, the high art world is a front for this kind of stuff.
But it’s not just that, the art world is a front, the high art world is a front for this kind of stuff. But it’s not just that, when we get into a lot of these famous artists like this that are operating at an international level like Marina Abramovich. I mean, she’s kind of had this stepping into the statecraft geopolitical world for many years as well.
If I recall, she had some previous connection to traveling under the State Department’s administration, and into the statecraft geopolitical world for many years as well. If I recall, she had some previous connection to traveling under the State Department’s purview or something like this. I don’t remember exactly all the details, but I think that came out a couple of years ago.
So it’s not surprising that she would be tasked with a job or a role like this, because she not only is a kind of a culture driver, because as you can see, she hangs out with the biggest celebrities in the world. And so that’s also very useful for spy work. Now, I don’t know that she’s a spy for sure. I’m just saying that you can see that usefulness of a position like this to intelligence agencies.
It ties into what we talked about for so long on my channel in terms of famous celebrities recruited into intelligence agencies and spy work. Again, I don’t know that Marina Abramovic is quote a spy. But again, she doesn’t have to be to be recruited into working at some high level of a government type of position. And that’s what we see now.
Now this is literally coming out, she’s actually being picked for these kinds of roles. And it’s nothing new. If you remember, and if you go to my channel on YouTube, I did a video of Hollywood spies, famous people in the history of Hollywood who were recruited into doing just this kind of work. And it’s all well documented in public verifiable history texts, not conspiracy books, just public history.
For example, we think of the most famous Norwegian actress during World War II, her name was Sonja Vigert. There’s a movie called Spy on Amazon, I recommend going and watching it. Because what you’ll notice is that the most famous actress in the world, Sonja Wiegert, was actually recruited by her government into having to spy, they more or less forced her into this.
She had to sleep with the Nazi high command to be a kind of sex operative or a honey trap. And she didn’t have any choice about it because they said, if you don’t, your dad remains in jail, we’re going to keep him in jail until you do this. And again, I highly recommend go watch the movie Spy on Amazon with the story of Sonja Begert, that’s a really well done foreign film.
Ben Affleck has made famous comments publicly that the CIA and Hollywood are flip sides of the same coin. Houdini famously worked in an intelligence capacity, I believe for Interpol, if I’m going from memory. Jimmy Stewart famously worked with the FBI as part of the FBI’s anti-communist efforts in Hollywood.
Julia Child, the famous TV cook, worked for the OSS. Errol Flynn supposedly was a Hollywood spy for Hitler, had Hitler sympathies, or at least he was suspected of that. And then the OSS asked Cary Grant to spy on Errol Flynn, or perhaps whatever was prior to the OSS, the inquiry or something like this.
Ian Fleming famously was British intelligence and worked closely with Hollywood on the entire James Bond saga. Christopher Lee, famous assassin for the, I think the RAF or RAS, I forget exactly who, British assassin.
Walt Disney worked with the CIA, FBI. So then none of this is surprising when we come back, we’ll discuss more of this on the Alex Jones show.
The Arts and the Power Elite
At that time, you had a lot of famous figures that were getting money and were funded by this CIA front. Does that mean that people like Jackson Pollock, Andy Warhol, does that mean that Jackson Pollock and Andy Warhol were secret CIA agents? They don’t have to know who’s funding their artworks or what the cutout is that’s really pushing a lot of this. And it wasn’t just abstract and degenerate art, it was also classical symphonies, anything that would project the ideas of Western civilization.
But the problem is that they started, as I said, experimenting with pushing postmodern art and really wild abstract art and the idea that there’s no order, symmetry, boundaries, it’s absolute and unbounded freedom. And ironically, even Ayn Rand, of all people, had a really interesting critique of this, which you might think, well, Ayn Rand’s kind of a classic libertarian-minded person.
Wouldn’t she support this against the Soviet approach? Well, even she realized in her book on aesthetic theory, which I actually recommend, it’s really good, she has all the same critiques that you just heard me make. She talks about how aesthetic theory, for example, can’t be divorced from order, harmony, symmetry, principles of geometry, right? You can’t remove those from the arts.
For example, music, right? If music doesn’t follow certain orders and patterns, right, it becomes cacophonous. It becomes noise. But that’s exactly what happens to music over the decades after the cultural revolution, music becomes more and more degraded, more and more noise, more and more cacophony, and more and more based around social engineering and programming, right?
It’s debased, and it’s debased on purpose. And this is what so many people have a hard time understanding, they can’t figure out. They think that this is too conspiratorial, even though it’s in all of these books, it’s not even up for debate.
I mean, you can go all the way back to ancient empires, go back to Plato. Plato talks about the need to, I think the dialogue is Ion. And then there’s another in the Republic, he says that the artists have to be censored and have to be controlled by the state because the power of art is such that it can foment or foster revolution.
That means that the state or the super state can study it and also weaponize it. And that’s exactly what happened in the 20th century with many of these movements such as Frankfurt School, such as what the CIA is doing with the Congress for Cultural Freedom. And so now you have this technology of utilizing the arts.
And so fast forward to what we have then today with the much touted WikiLeaks revelation of spirit cooking with Marina Abramovich, which if you remember, she did a Reddit AMA. And she did explain that her perspective on spirit cooking was that it was a kind of intentional magical operation or using the will to affect what you would like to happen in the world. She cited kind of Crowley and type of Aleister Crowley type stuff as her view of what performance art is and what art so called is.
And that’s where we begin to see all of these manifestations of the bizarre in the arts, and it gets weirder and weirder and weirder, because the idea is that arts are really the forefront of culture revolution to remove all boundaries. So what is art? Simply the removal of boundaries, simply the transgression of all boundaries. And so it can no longer be about beauty, symmetry, order, harmony, synthesis, symphonia, etc. It can’t be about them anymore, has to be about the perpetual pushing the envelope and new levels of shock and awe.
And this means then that there is no such thing as art. Anything is potentially art, pushing the envelope and new levels of shock and awe. And so this means then that there is no such thing as art. Anything is potentially art, and then nothing is art. And so it really just becomes this front, I guess you could say, because this is why, by the way, a lot of the art world, the high art world, is famously known to be a vehicle for a bunch of money laundering.
You have drawings of garbage, pieces of trash, bananas taped to a wall that sells for a million dollars, right? Well, that’s just quite obviously a way to avoid taxes and this kind of stuff. And pretty much there’s famous documentaries on Netflix that have delved into this for years. So it’s very well known that the art world is a front, the high art world is a front for this kind of stuff.
But it’s not just that, the art world is a front, the high art world is a front for this kind of stuff. But it’s not just that, when we get into a lot of these famous artists like this that are operating at an international level like Marina Abramovich. I mean, she’s kind of had this stepping into the statecraft geopolitical world for many years as well.
If I recall, she had some previous connection to traveling under the State Department’s administration, and into the statecraft geopolitical world for many years as well. If I recall, she had some previous connection to traveling under the State Department’s purview or something like this. I don’t remember exactly all the details, but I think that came out a couple of years ago.
So it’s not surprising that she would be tasked with a job or a role like this, because she not only is a kind of a culture driver, because as you can see, she hangs out with the biggest celebrities in the world. And so that’s also very useful for spy work. Now, I don’t know that she’s a spy for sure. I’m just saying that you can see that usefulness of a position like this to intelligence agencies.
It ties into what we talked about for so long on my channel in terms of famous celebrities recruited into intelligence agencies and spy work. Again, I don’t know that Marina Abramovic is quote a spy. But again, she doesn’t have to be to be recruited into working at some high level of a government type of position. And that’s what we see now.
Now this is literally coming out, she’s actually being picked for these kinds of roles. And it’s nothing new. If you remember, and if you go to my channel on YouTube, I did a video of Hollywood spies, famous people in the history of Hollywood who were recruited into doing just this kind of work. And it’s all well documented in public verifiable history texts, not conspiracy books, just public history.
For example, we think of the most famous Norwegian actress during World War II, her name was Sonja Vigert. There’s a movie called Spy on Amazon, I recommend going and watching it. Because what you’ll notice is that the most famous actress in the world, Sonja Wiegert, was actually recruited by her government into having to spy, they more or less forced her into this.
She had to sleep with the Nazi high command to be a kind of sex operative or a honey trap. And she didn’t have any choice about it because they said, if you don’t, your dad remains in jail, we’re going to keep him in jail until you do this. And again, I highly recommend go watch the movie Spy on Amazon with the story of Sonja Begert, that’s a really well done foreign film.
Ben Affleck has made famous comments publicly that the CIA and Hollywood are flip sides of the same coin. Houdini famously worked in an intelligence capacity, I believe for Interpol, if I’m going from memory. Jimmy Stewart famously worked with the FBI as part of the FBI’s anti-communist efforts in Hollywood.
Julia Child, the famous TV cook, worked for the OSS. Errol Flynn supposedly was a Hollywood spy for Hitler, had Hitler sympathies, or at least he was suspected of that. And then the OSS asked Cary Grant to spy on Errol Flynn, or perhaps whatever was prior to the OSS, the inquiry or something like this.
Ian Fleming famously was British intelligence and worked closely with Hollywood on the entire James Bond saga. Christopher Lee, famous assassin for the, I think the RAF or RAS, I forget exactly who, British assassin.
Walt Disney worked with the CIA, FBI. So then none of this is surprising when we come back, we’ll discuss more of this on the Alex Jones show.
Cancel Culture and Social Control
Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show. I’m your guest host Jay Dyer, Jason Alices. We were talking about the intimate connections between the arts and the power elite. And this is a well known, I guess you could say a secret for millennia, that the arts project and they reflect the spirit, the soul of the people. And so you can degrade the arts, then you can also degrade and essentially control the spirit, the soul of a people.
And so when we have a lot of what’s being pushed in the public sphere, we think, a lot of people think, well, this is just, it’s just sort of, it’s random, it’s organic, it’s just happening. There’s no overriding connection. There’s no real reason why Piss Christ or Damien Hirst or Marina Abramovich’s art is lifted up and hailed to be the preeminent great art of our time.
But in reality, we see that there’s a long history of this connection, and that it is part of social engineering and social societal control. But in reality, we see that there’s a long history of this connection. And that it is part of social engineering and social societal control.
And also, when we come to the cancellation of people from the world of the arts, this also has to do with them stepping outside of the reservation and what they’re allowed or supposed to say. So in the case of Russell Brand, for example, he fits into the pattern of many people who, as soon as they really go off the reservation of establishment arts or establishment politics or establishment party politics or whatever, social commentary, then comes suddenly all the skeletons in the closet, all the dirt.
So again, it doesn’t mean that the person didn’t do things in their past. I don’t know, and I didn’t do things in their past. I mean, I thought Russell Brand’s been saying a lot of good stuff lately, the past couple of years. And so, you know, whatever the people’s motivations are, I’m happy that the truth, people are saying true things. People are coming out. That’s great. So we shouldn’t, I think, jump on the bandwagon of assuming that everybody who leaves the establishment or starts saying true things is a phony or COINTELPRO or a shill. We don’t know that.
There’s no point really in endless speculations about people’s motives anyway, because you’re never going to know ultimately people’s motives. How can you judge everybody’s motives from behind a computer screen or on mass media? You can’t. So we’re not privy to, we don’t have access to everybody’s motives from behind a computer screen or on mass media. You can’t. So we’re not privy to, we don’t have access to people’s motives.
There’s not really any point in trying to judge people’s motives. Look to the fruit of the works, right? Look to what’s happening. And it kind of, again, echoes a lot of prominent people.
Remember Kavanaugh? Everybody’s already forgotten Kavanaugh. I don’t have any opinions on Kavanaugh per se, but as soon as he was proposed by Trump, out comes all these rape stories. Why? And it’s always way past years later, people say, well, they didn’t have a chance to come out, well, why didn’t they go to the police at the time, right?
Why are they contracting out the investigations to news organizations? Why aren’t the police involved, right? Isn’t that who you would go to if you were really raped? I mean, wouldn’t you go the next day? That’s what I think what you would do, but really, again, it’s a tool, it’s a card that the system can play, and they will really just try to find anything in anybody’s past, if you rise to any level of prominence.
And after a while, I think if you’ve seen this so many times, it doesn’t really have much effect, I think, to people who are becoming wise to this it’s almost like okay you just expect it right. And it fits perfectly into a society where. Now you know women are the majority of voters as I understand- where there’s the idea of a nanny state that will prioritize security and safety, supposedly, over liberty and freedom.
So we’re actually getting the flipping over into, now that we’ve been turned degenerate, we’ve been debased, now the society has been effectually feminized and castrated. We can have a society where the nanny state comes to the fore because its job is to protect its citizens and be a mommy to them, right?
Not even so much big brother, big brother is too patriarchal. We got to have the nanny state, the mommy state. And the mommy state’s there to make everybody feel good and to give you your feelies. And then anybody who is toxically masculine is now the enemy of the nanny state.
So a lot of commentators and people think, well, I’ll just be a masculinity or a health type of person. I won’t focus on any of this, I won’t talk about this kind of stuff. I’ll avoid it and I’ll live a good life by just being a health guy or a fitness guy or whatever.
No, no, no, toxic masculinity, they’re now saying is right wing supremacy, right? It’s a right wing extremist. If you go to the gym, you’re a right wing extremist. If you want organic food, right wing extremist. That’s by design, it’s not accidental, you see.
But again, notice how the narratives are, they keep collapsing with each of the people. So whether it’s Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, right, that narrative collapsed, Johnny Depp ended up vindicated. That again echoes the same situation with the idea of Me Too basically merging into tying yourself to believe all women and just accept the accusations.
The scariest part is that the cancellation occurs just on the basis of accusations or allegations. There hasn’t been a major the cancellation occurs just on the basis of accusations or allegations. There hasn’t been, to my knowledge in the case of Russell Brand, and I’ve been trying to keep up with it, so I haven’t seen if there’s new news reports today, I haven’t seen, but at least I think there was a report yesterday about him flashing a woman decades ago.
What does that mean, mooning her? I mean, that’s now sexual assault? I mean, they’re saying basically anything could be sexual assault, right? Again, I don’t know what Russell Brand did. But the point is that it doesn’t matter in the sense of whether there’s not been any prosecution.
Big Tech wants the ability to have trial by media to destroy anybody that goes against the system or the establishment. That’s the key point. That’s the struggle session power control.
And by the way, I think Max Blumenthal had a great point which was that the system does not actually obviously care about women and women being raped. If they actually cared about women and women getting raped or something like this in a handful of cases, which is bad if it happened, but we’re supposed to believe that no, the system does care about women, even though millions of women have been murdered and killed by the Bush and Obama regime in the past few decades.
But they care about a handful of cases, right, the British government as well, of women allegedly raped in the case of cases, right? The British government as well, of women allegedly raped in the case of this or that famous person. Right, so a handful of cases, it’s international news.
Millions of people being killed on the basis of illegal and unjustifiable wars, absolutely, state sanctioned, don’t pay any attention to that. Again, Blumenthal’s point just absolutely highlights the hypocrisy and absurdity that we’re supposed to believe that the British government calling for the cancellation of a Russell Brant brand on rumble that they care about women.
When they push policies that destroy countries like Libya or countries in the Middle East, which kill at least what, 500,000, 100,000, or a million in a few cases, right? Well, those people, that’s okay, because what, it was ultimately for women’s rights? I mean, who believes this, right?
Are we destroying these countries for women’s rights? No, it’s for all kinds of imperialist and corporate reasons, obviously. But it’s also to establish in these countries systems, neoliberal ideas, which are destructive to those countries as well, for the purpose of corporate 100, Fortune 100, Fortune 500, right?
And so, I think that’s those countries as well. For the purpose of corporate 100, Fortune 100, Fortune 500, right? Expansion, same situation with Ukraine, a big part of Ukraine is pipelines, energy control, who will give energy to Europe? And it’s money laundering and it’s all of that, it’s all the scandals with the Biden family.
Again, the establishment, what about the Hunter Biden? How many people has, women, has Hunter Biden been involved with? Was that a big deal or is that not a big deal? We don’t care about that. No, only Russell Brand’s case matters, only Trump’s case matters, you see, in terms of the power structure in mainstream media.
Well, that’s obviously absurd and it’s a contradiction. And these social justice champions and activists everywhere supposedly care about morals and hypocrisy. The whole thing is immoral and hypocritical. It’s absolutely a contradiction. You have Madeline Albright, different people like this bragging about the numbers of people that were killed, people that were killed, children that were killed in these wars. And it’s, yeah, but we had to do it, right? It was necessary. And on what basis?
Well, Saddam was connected to 9-11. No, he wasn’t. Well, Yellow Cake, weapons of mass destruction. Well, that was fake. Well, we got to go over those countries to help the women. I mean, who actually believes this? It’s crazy.
Anyway, obviously, we can see that there’s a lot of shenanigans and political opportunism at work here, not altruism and social justice. If you want to get my books on these topics, you can head over to my website, Jason Allison, in the shop.
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