Jay Dyer’s appearances on the 4th Hour of Alex Jones are funny sometimes. The recording will start as he is answering a question from Alex Jones that we don’t hear. So, he’s talking about something then he’ll pivot to the real topic for the segment.
This episode is no exception. Dyer is answering Alex’s question about aliens, and he goes on a great little rant about the alien deception. He says that CD Jackson was part of the production of The Day the Earth Stood Still. The primary theme of that film is the only way Earth survives an alien attack is if we build a socialist world government.
That is still the message of the elites.
Coincidentally, or not, it is also the messaging coming from people that commune with entities on drug trips. Depopulation and world government because humanity is bad and needs big changes to survive.
He also mentions that in Dr. Brenda Denzler’s book, The Lure of the Edge, she quotes a 1960s Brookings Institute report, which was commissioned by NASA, saying the discovery of alien life will be totally destructive to Western civilization’s religious myths (ie. Christianity).
In other words, it’s been a psyop from the start to destroy Christianity and the Biblical narratives, and to cover for black ops and drug running, and to funnel money into off-the-books projects.
Also, interesting that Dyer believes, and I concur, that alien activity is either demonic or next level government technology.
Dyer also talks to Dorothy Martin about her recent conversion, and healing from the trauma of Satanic Ritual Abuse she suffered in Hollywood.
Resources
- Video Link: https://www.banned.video/watch?id=6483b086492826dd9d4554e7
- Book: The Lure of the Edge by Brenda Denzler
Transcript
Rockstar Conversion Story: Victim of Satanic Ritual Abuse Becomes Voice for Christianity
What I really wanted to tell you today is I’m actually a survivor of satanic ritual abuse and I work with a great ministry team that does inner healing and deliverance. And if you want to have them on at some point, we can really expose what goes on in Hollywood with the SRA and the mind control. These people help, you know, the victims that the church can’t handle that are so broken and in need of deliverance. And they do it with the help of Jesus, God, taking their fractured soul parts and piecing them back together and healing their wounds. And I’m only talking about this because I went through it myself. You know, I tried therapy, I tried drugs and alcohol, I tried all the things to make myself feel better. And I’m telling you, this is real. It’s really a miracle that I’m here today talking to you about it. Yeah, I mean, are you comfortable talking about some of that in terms of your background? I didn’t actually know that.
So what what can you say about that in terms of how did that come about? Was it something that was part of your family or like did you get inducted into this in Hollywood or what happened? It was in Hollywood through a Satanist, um, that I was involved with. And it was fortunately not through my family. However, this is something that does happen in family bloodlines a lot of the time. And my, my deliverance counselor could probably give you a lot more detail and accurate information on that. Um, but so that’s not the first miracle I witnessed. Then I ended up in rehab. Then the Holy Spirit spoke to me then and I was saved. I was watching a Joel Osteen sermon and I it was like I knew I wanted to know who Jesus was. And I started reading the Bible and then the Bible started reading me and the Lord started speaking through the Bible and having me have divine appointments and interactions with people. So since then it’s been pretty miraculous. You know, I’m in this rock and roll band, we’re touring, it’s secular music, but yet that’s I guess where God has me to speak to people and share the gospel in a way and also pray for them and intercede for them and plant seeds in the music so it’s a huge honor and a blessing to be able to do that and But the the ritual abuse was so so long ago I thought I had recovered from it, but I had been just living with PTSD for a very long time The alien stuff is wild. In fact, I did a fourth hour almost two years ago. It was December 2021.
And you can see right there, I got a nice amount of views there. Coming announcement of alien life is a technocratic psyop. Put a good amount of time into this topic over the last several years. I did a live stream two nights ago on my YouTube channel about two or three hours just devoted to the whole history of the CIA’s relationship to the so-called alien phenomenon. I view it as pretty much a psyop. You can go to the history of alien cults. The intelligence agencies have had a long, you know, in-depth relationship with a lot of these alien cults, whether it’s Scientology or the Rayalians or any of these entities, really. They’re all studied. They’re all sort of fostered and it’s like a test tube where they let these things grow and they become great studies, you could say, for how to socially engineer. I cover the fact that I think when I was in studio with Alex a few months ago, I covered the fact that the top eight things to expect by the year 2030 of the World Economic Forum, that top eight things to expect video that went viral that they subsequently took down. I think they put up in 2018.
That video said we may in fact mention the discovery of alien life by 2030. So they’re actually just rolling out stuff that they’ve had planned for a long time. And I think as you covered the other day, Alex, the stories that they’re giving now are the same stories that have been recycled for the last 20, 30 years. I remember old Google video clips of generals all been to the underground bases and I’ve seen the clones and blah, blah. How many times have we heard this story? They’re cloning aliens in the bases. That’s because it’s the same story that they recycle and that goes all the way back to the Roswell crash. That was a military involved crash of so-called, it’s the same recycled story because the stories work. You back to the Roswell crash. That was a military involved crash, so-called. It’s the same recycled story because the stories work. You go to the original people, Betty and Barney Hill, you go to the George Adamski story.
All of these stories have the same patterns, the same archetypes involved. They always have the same technocratic message. And that’s why, if you look at the character of Adamski, the first so-called abductee story, a lot of people don’t know that Alan Dulles was running point for him. Anybody that would question Adamski or try to take him to court, Alan Dulles threatened to take them to court. Why did Alan Dulles care what George Adamski was up to? Well, he would care if this was part of a longer PSYOP. And you can look at figures like C.D. Jackson, who was the author of the doctrinal warfare program where the CIA was utilizing and co-opting churches throughout the Cold War. He also was involved in consulting on a lot of different film projects. If I recall, he was involved in The Day the Earth Stood Still, which is the story where the aliens are coming outside threat.
And if we don’t create a world government, a world socialist government, we’ll never survive the alien threat or the threat of the nukes and all this kind of stuff. So in my view, this is all 100% an outline. In fact, I’ve covered for many years the late 60s Brookings Report Institute. They said in the late 60s, and they were commissioned by NASA to put this out, this is in Dr. Brenda Densler’s book on the history of the alien phenomenon. She’s an academic writing about this from an academic perspective. She said that in that 1960s report, they outlined the fact that the discovery of alien life, quote unquote, would have totally destructive effects on the history of Western civilization’s religious myths. So the Bible, for example, would be undercut in its story and in its narrative by the alien mythos. And so it’s a psy-op, it’s intended to, it does a lot of things. It’s a cover for black ops, it’s a cover for advanced technology by the government and by corporations, it’s a cover for drug running that goes on at some of these bases and other nefarious activities. It was a psyop in the Cold War to tell the Soviets that there’s aliens and all this kind of stuff. So it serves a lot of functions, but on the longer scale, multi-decade narrative, it serves to give a new religious mythology to the West and to the world, perhaps, to replace the biblical narratives.
And they even say that in the White Papers, the Brookings Institute Report from the 1960s, late 60s, to replace the biblical narrative. So I want to go to my guest today, rock and roll star, Dorothy joins me. Dorothy reached out and said that she likes the fourth hour, she likes the show, she likes this material. And I wanna get into discussing her journey, how she woke up to a lot of this, how she got into the topic of the New World Order. But Dorothy, how are you today? I’m great. Thanks for having me. Thanks for coming on. We only have a few seconds here. Let’s talk about your your band first. How does the name Dorothy is this Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz, Dorothy? It’s just my birth name. I’m bringing it back, I guess. It’s an old Hollywood name. And I couldn’t think of a good band name, so we just rolled with it. I guess it worked, right? Did you have, Carte Blanche, was that your decision, or did you have to pass it by the committee of the other band members? There’s not really, I mean, I have a great team, they’re great, at the time it was my manager’s idea, and since I couldn’t think of a band name, I said, all right, let’s just call it Dorothy and get the band together and that’s what we did.
All right so we’re gonna skip the break that’s good we can continue this conversation now your band has had you had a recent event I think it was fairly recent right that was pretty notable for a conversion in your own life so first I want to before we get to that event, was this, what was your life prior to this event? Because you know, you’ve got records and stuff going back, at least videos going back like nine or 10 years. So were you like a more of a normal, just rock and roll outfit then? Like living pretty wild or not? Absolutely. I’ve been touring for the last nine years. I’ve been a signed recording artist, writing albums, touring with my rock band. And I think the event you’re referring to is that I witnessed a miracle on my tour bus. This tech that we had taken on tour took an overdose of heroin and died on the bus. I was not a Christian.
I didn’t believe in miracles. I didn’t even know if God was real. And the night before that this happened, I was in my bunk praying, God, if you’re real, I need you to reveal yourself to me because I’m really struggling. And I encourage anyone that’s curious about God to start speaking that out. Because what happened next, the next day, was that this young man died on my bus, and we prayed over him. We prayed over him, and this voice said to me, and it was like the Holy Spirit was speaking to me. And at the time, I didn’t know that that was the Holy Spirit, but now I do. And the Holy Spirit said, pray. And so we grabbed hands and prayed for him. I said, God, will you just give this young man one more chance? And he was resurrected. Fortunately, that’s not the only miracle I’ve witnessed. What I really wanted to tell you today is I’m actually a survivor of satanic ritual abuse. And I work with a great ministry team that does inner healing and deliverance. And if you wanna have them on at some point, we can really expose what goes on in Hollywood with the SRA and the mind control. These people help, you know, the victims that the church can’t handle that are so broken and in need of deliverance.
And they do it with the help of Jesus, God, taking their fractured soul parts and piecing them back together and healing their wounds. And I’m only talking about this because I went through it myself. You know, I tried therapy, I tried drugs and alcohol, I tried all the things to make myself feel better. And I’m telling you, this is real. It’s really a miracle that I’m here today talking to you about it. Yeah, I mean, are you comfortable talking about some of that in terms of your background? I didn’t actually know that. So what can you say about that in terms of how did that come about? Was it something that was part of your family or like, did you get inducted into this in Hollywood or what happened? It was in Hollywood through a Satanist that I was involved with, and it was unfortunately not through my family. However, this is something that does happen in family bloodlines a lot of the time. And my deliverance counselor could probably give you a lot more detail and accurate information on that. But so that’s not the first miracle I witnessed.
Then I ended up in rehab. Then the Holy Spirit spoke to me then and I was saved. I was watching a Joel Osteen sermon and I, it was like I knew I wanted to know who Jesus was and I started reading the Bible and then the Bible started reading me and the Lord started speaking me through the Bible and having me have divine appointments and interactions with people. So since then it’s been pretty miraculous. You know, I’m in this rock and roll band, we’re touring, it’s secular music, but yet that’s I guess where God has me to speak to people and share the gospel in a way and also pray for them and intercede for them and plant seeds in the music. So it’s a huge honor and a blessing to be able to do that. But the ritual abuse was so, so long ago, I thought I had recovered from it, but I had been just living with PTSD for a very long time. And so two people from the church referred me to my deliverance counselor, and she did hands-on prayer and the only way I can describe it is after my deliverance was over the noise stopped. It was peaceful. It was like just the peace that surpasses all understanding. Now when you say a long time ago are you saying like when you were really young or was this like a coven or can you go into any of that or do you not recall? This this was one person Although there are covens and families and things like that This was in my early early 20s, and I did black a lot of it out I actually have a hard time remembering a lot of it, but You know after I was saved two later, God started taking me through various deliverances.
My chronic neck pain was gone with hands on prayer after trying medication, doctors, chiropractic, things like that. And then and then he wanted to take it. So God will heal you in layers because he doesn’t want to take you through more than you can handle at the time. And so it was layers of deliverance, revealing things to me, giving me discernment and eyes to see. So now I just get this sense. I know when someone’s demonized. And the thing I want to remind believers and people out there, everyone is people are not your enemy. Satan is your enemy and he uses people, people with trauma and open gateways and you know, curses in their bloodline, think you know, the sins of our father, but there’s nothing anyone has done that can stop them from getting saved and getting delivered. That’s a free gift from Jesus, and it’s available to everyone. It’s a change of heart. So when you had this experience on the tour bus, how long ago was this? Was this recent or a few years ago? When was this?
This was a few years ago. I prayed the prayer. The next evening this happened, and my sound guy and I looked at each other like, what just happened? And that was the day I was convinced God was real. But that was just kind of him opening the door, I guess, and revealing himself to me. And then it was a journey of discovering, getting born again, getting baptized, receiving the Holy Spirit, having the eyes to see, getting deliverance, getting healed. And, you know, I’m still a baby and it’s just like kind of a journey with Jesus. We’re walking hand in hand. But I wanted to share this story because this is a real thing that happens to people. And no, it didn’t happen as a child, but it happens to children in horrible ways that you couldn’t possibly imagine and And so I think that the body of Christ needs to get curious about deliverance Now yeah, so when this occurred like what before this event like what was your attitude towards You know the divine or things transcended. Do you think there was no God or maybe there’s a God or like what was your attitude towards, you know, the divine or things transcended? Did you think there was no God or maybe there’s a God or like what was your attitude?
Maybe, I wasn’t sure, you know, I was always, one thing I was always searching for was the truth. And I definitely had an awakening in my early 20s, thanks to David Icke, actually, I mean, his material was so insane that it was the only thing that made sense to me. And I was blown away that I knew chemtrails were real, but yet nobody seemed to want to acknowledge it. Things like that. So I had an awakening then, but then I went back to sleep. We’re being bombarded on all sides by all these things to put us to sleep, to keep us stupid, to keep us sick. And I went back to sleep, but that’s just like expert level gaslighting when you have the spraying in the sky and you can see it with your eyes and Google’s telling you that it’s a conspiracy theory. And as someone who’s a survivor of SRA and narcissistic abuse,, when that happens, my fire alarms, my internal alarms just go off. So I guess it’s good that I went through those things and came out the other side because now I’m a weapon against this. And I told the Lord, just use me to blow up the enemy’s camp. I’m just sick of it, let’s go. as a, you know, just use me to blow up the enemy’s camp. I’m just sick of it, let’s go.
So did you, you said that you kind of had an awareness of some of these elements of the New World Order and what was going on. Was that prior to the conversion experience or was it the conversion experience and then you really saw how this battle that we’re in isn’t just a geopolitical thing, it’s also a spiritual thing, is that what you’re saying? Yeah, I saw it and I didn’t connect it with the spiritual until I had a spiritual awakening, and now it’s like the whole thing makes sense. And I really credit David Icke with connecting a lot of seemingly unrelated dots, Alex, and people who can see and expand their vision and see the bigger picture That’s that’s something else like and it and when you do have the spirit of truth and the Holy Spirit you are given a level of discernment It’s undeniable Yeah, I mean that absolutely that’s one of the gifts that’s mentioned in I think the Corinthians passage and I’m curious because you know Right now we’re seeing this barrage of news that deals with aliens and all this kind of nonsense.
And I’ve always believed that there’s a deep-seated deception involved in this alien phenomena. You can go back to people involved working with the Pentagon who then came out and said, this is actually a mass level deception like Jacques Vallee, the famous DoD computer scientist guy. He says, this is actually a mass level deception, like Jacques Vallee, the famous DOD computer scientist guy. He says, this is a malevolent deception. He’s not even a Christian, but he’s able to recognize that there is something involved in this that’s more than just human beings at a manipulation level. There’s also something spiritual going on, but he actually says that the entities involved in this, they’re not extraterrestrial, they’re actually terrestrial. They’re part of this planet. And they are involved in a mass deception to steer in a social engineering way, human beings into some kind of world government or something like this. Would you agree with that? What’s your take on the whole alien phenomenon? I could definitely see that. I mean, I definitely don’t put that past them. I think it’s demonic.
I think it’s connected. It’s beyond my understanding, certainly. And if you have people in the government kind of leaking this information, is the mainstream talking about it? Probably not. I don’t know too much about the alien thing. I think it’s I believe it was Alistair Crowley that said he had conjured some entity that said, you know, you call us demons, they call us aliens, and one day you’ll know that it’s one and the same. Something along those lines, I don’t want to misquote, but I think a lot of the things that seem alien are just, are demonic, and they really are not. Fallen angels bound in cosmic realms. I mean, that sounds alien to me. Yeah, no, I think that the element of it that is demonic is precisely, you know, it’s a fallen angel situation. That’s what I’m saying. I’m not saying it’s all, I think there’s multiple things going on. So it’s not just the government engaging in black ops. I think there’s a real phenomenon that’s going on. I’m not saying every little grainy clip on YouTube is demonic But I’m saying that there is an element by which for example, if you look at people who’ve done DMT or people who’ve done a lot of acid or the Psychonauts like Terrence McKenna or Timothy Leary or John C. Lilly when they talk about their trips and when they talk about Interacting with these interdimensional entities, you know, it’s the same type of thing that David Icke talks about that you mentioned, they always say that the message that they’ve been given is have a world government, you need to depopulate, you can’t run the planet correctly because you built bombs, and if you just do what we say and you worship us, then you’re gonna get the utopia, kind of a socialist tech utopia.
So, I mean, that to me just screams the demonic. I mean, demons have always engaged in prompting human beings to do the same types of activities like offer up your firstborn to us, right? You know, this kind of stuff. So that’s exactly what the entities that are speaking to people are saying. It’s no different than what, was saying, Ellen Page today, her process of hearing a voice telling her to mutilate herself. To me, that is, again, why is no one accepting the best explanation for these phenomena is the demonic? What do demons do? They hate human beings. We’re going to go to this break. When we come back, we are talking to rock and roll star, Dorothy. This is the Oxygen Show. Don’t go anywhere. Welcome back to the Allis Jones Show, I’m your guest host, Jay Dyer of Jay’s analysis. I want to remind you too that if you want to get deep into that alien nonsense and all the breakdowns that I’ve done, if you go to band.video, you can search my name and you’ll find at least four or five different fourth hours that I’ve done deconstructing the alien stuff from my vantage point. You can go to my YouTube channel, Jay Dyer, and you can find the most recent podcast that we did a couple days ago, just kind of mocking and making fun of this. I wanna note too that if you look at Isaiah 11, there’s a really interesting passage, it’s one of the most famous messianic passages predicting the Messiah. It says, there shall come forth a root from the rod of Jesse, a flower shall grow out of his root. The Spirit of God will rest upon him. The Spirit of wisdom, understanding, counsel, might, knowledge, godliness, spirit of the fear of God shall fill him. And of course, David being the son of Jesse there, that is a reference to the Davidic lineage of Jesus the Messiah. And so we have these spirits that are mentioned, right? These seven spirits. And Paul in 1 Corinthians mentions these gifts of the spirit. And so I’m assuming that that’s where Dorothy got the inspiration for her most recent album a few months ago, right? Which is Gifts from the Holy Ghost, right? So I actually named the album before I had ever opened the Bible. I feel like God can give you downloads. And this happened, I woke up in my hotel room in New York City, I was writing and recording the record. I woke up and the first thing I heard was Gifts from the Holy Ghost. I wrote it down and I didn’t know what the gifts from the Holy Spirit were, what the fruits of the Holy Spirit were. Church made me nervous, you know. So I wrote it down and I thought, that sounds like a great album title. I finished the last song, Gifts from the Holy Ghost, which I feel has very rich spiritual messaging. And there it was, and I ended up getting saved after that. So God’s really funny with his perfect divine timing of doing things so that you know it’s him. Oh, absolutely, yeah, divine providence is, I think, you know, before I got into this worldview, you tend to see things as synchronicity, right? Let’s like Carl Jung’s synchronicity. But then you start to realize, well, synchronicity doesn’t really make sense if it’s like coming from my psyche, right? That’s the way Carl Jung pictures it all. It’s like, he even has an essay where he talks about UFOs and he says, oh, the UFOs are a manifestation of our unconscious, right?
But that doesn’t really make sense because it’s not our unconscious that’s manifesting these things. There is a divine mind, a divine consciousness, you could say, and that makes sense for how reality can be organized via divine providence, by our free will working together with divine providence. To me, that makes a lot more sense in this idea that our psyche manifests it, like Carl Jung says. But yeah, I think that on the notion of spiritual warfare, too, we didn’t really mention this in the pre-interview discussion, but I’m Orthodox, and it’s ironic because only, to my knowledge, only the Orthodox Church still does the ancient form of exorcism at baptism. So in the early church, they would actually do a ritual of exorcism as part of the baptismal ritual. I’m not knocking your conversion or anything like that. I’m just saying that one of the reasons I found orthodoxy appealing was that when you look into the history of the church, you have this ancient baptismal rite, and they would always include the ritual of exorcism as part of baptism. And to me, that suggests that the church has to have this notion of the reality of spiritual warfare. And a lot of the Orthodox hymnography, a lot of the chants that we sing, they are rife with this notion of spiritual warfare and battling the demonic realm. And I think that that’s an element that I’m not personally charismatic, obviously, but a lot of charismatics get that element correct, like they realize there is a reality to spiritual warfare. And some charismatics can go crazy with this, but a lot of it might be a lot of the Protestant churches kind of have a fractured element where they, like different ones have pieces of truth, right? But I think that if we understand the notion of authority, if we understand the notion of the church possessing this power, you know, Jesus said, you will do these things. You will cast out demons, he says to the apostles in Luke, right?
And he says, I’ve given you authority over the scorpions, over all the enemy and so forth. So I appreciate that, you know, you’ve incorporated that into your music and into your worldview about how you approach writing. Do you find that to be difficult when you write with the people that you write with? Because you just have this big thing drop. What I know you’ve got your album, which is out some months ago. We have a new song that just dropped with Nita, right? Yes. Nita Strauss, Victorious. Fellow believer, and we wanted a very empowering song that was going to encourage young women. I think we accomplished that. So yeah, her and I talk about this. It’s true. Spiritual warfare is a real thing. Believers have been given authority by Jesus, and a lot of them don’t know their authority, and the enemy will hammer them. And it’s so obvious, because the devil never has any new tricks. I mean, it’s always before a big interview or before some big blessing. And if you can just nail your flesh to the cross, so to speak, and not react to the flesh and pick up your tools, go into praise and worship, use the word of God, which is the sword of the spirit, command that enemy to leave you in the name of Jesus, command those spirits, Jezebel, whoever’s attacking you to go in Jesus name. And if you know your authority and you’ve been given it by Jesus, they have to obey you. And yeah, of course the devil wants you to worship him, but he hates humans. He hates us. So why would you worship something that hates us?
That wants to see your demise and your destruction? I mean, it sounds like masochism to me. That’s a really good point. I think that a lot of times people that are getting more and more serious about their Satanism, for example, they actually do get into harming themselves. You know, if you go back to the Old Testament, when not just the fall, when Jesus says that Satan was the first thief and liar, right? He lied. He stole man’s life. That was what he did in the garden. If you fast forward to the time of Elijah, when he’s dealing with the prophets of Baal, when they’re on the mountain having that spiritual confrontation, what is it that the prophets of Baal when they’re on the mountain having that spiritual confrontation. What is it that the prophets of Baal are doing? They’re cutting themselves and they’re trying to invoke Baal, Baal-Zebub, right, by cutting themselves, self-harm, and the release of the blood and whatnot they thought would bring this entity, that would bring this power to them, and it didn’t. Nothing happened, right? It only harmed them. And if you look at other instances in scripture, for example, where we see people who are mentioned committing suicide, there’s only a few of these in scripture. There’s Judas and there’s Saul. And in both cases, Judas and Saul were specifically said to be possessed in, I guess, different degrees. I think Judas was a lot more possessed than Saul was, but both of those guys killed themselves.
So we have two instances in Scripture of suicide, and in both cases the people were specifically demonically possessed. So the theme here that I’m getting at is that every time we see this manifestation in Scripture of the presence of the demonic, it’s always self-harm. Remember the guy in the tombs, when Jesus cast out the demon, the guy wandering in the tombs, it says that he kept throwing himself into the fire and trying to kill himself. So every time suicide appears, it’s always in the presence of the demonic, and that to me suggests that self-harm, mutilating oneself, this is very relevant for a lot of what’s going on in our culture right now, it has a spiritual root. It’s not just bad ideology. It’s a spiritual problem. And until we address the spiritual problem, the problems can’t be fixed. You can’t fix these things with politics. What do you think? Well, yeah, and I want to point out that the blood covenants, the drinking of the blood in Hollywood, the cutting, the releasing of blood, blood is the highest currency in the spirit realm. That’s why Jesus gave his blood for us and made a mockery of Satan and disarmed him and defeated him and took the keys back. It was the power in the blood.
The reason is that blood is the highest currency in the spirit realm. So, and yeah, it’s definitely demonic when you hear voices telling you to cut yourself. I would suggest getting some deliverance and coming to know God because he can set you free from all that. You could have sold your soul to Satan himself or have it embedded in your bloodline and still be set free. You could have sold your soul to Satan himself or have it embedded in your bloodline and still be set free. Satan doesn’t own your soul. He doesn’t have any right to it. He has no authority over it. God does and God’s name is literally printed on your DNA. So I think that settles that. I wanna remind everybody that they can follow you. We still got another segment after this but they can follow you over on your channel at Dorothy. They can check out the new album gifts from the Holy Ghost. Well, relatively new past few months, right?
And then your new song with Nita is on, I think her channel and they can follow you on Instagram as right as well. Right, right. Just at Dorothy. I got lucky. I got the handle Nice.
Welcome back to the oxygen show. I’m your guest says Jay Dyer of Jaysanalysis.com. So I want to remind you that if you are in the L.A. Hollywood area, we will be live in L.A. July six with Jamie Kennedy. Yes, Jamie Kennedy from the Jamie Kennedy experiment from Malibu’s most wanted from Scream. Randy Meeks in person. How would you not want to be there for that? It’s a blast, our live events are the bomb. If you don’t know, it’s more like a five hour party at our live events. We do comedy, we do impressions, we do serious stuff. We actually get into a lot of real hardcore information. My wife will be doing a discussion on esoteric Hollywood, which you guys know I have two books on that. And I will be doing a presentation on my new book, Meta-Narratives, the essays on philosophy and symbolism. So I’ll be covering a lot of philosophical topics as well as doing a lot of ridiculous nonsense. And as you guys may or may not have seen, I performed my first cringe core song live last weekend at Courtney Turner’s event. And so the crowd got trolled. They didn’t know what they were going to get. And they actually got a live version of my Matthew McConaughey song. Pure cringe, pure live. And I might actually do quite a few of those. If you come to the LA event, as well as serious stuff. So if you head on over to my website, Jason, also, as I come, you’ll see under every post, there is the link of the live events. Get your ticket to the July 6th, Los Angeles event in the links there. The event, right links. It’s going to be a lot of fun. And then of course, Jamie will be, Jamie Kennedy will be the headliner doing some standup.
And you of course, Jamie will be, Jamie Kennedy will be the headliner doing some standup. And you can also get on over to his merch table and meet him and get a few picks with him. He’s a great dude. Very cool. Um, let’s get back to this notion of spiritual warfare. I think, again, think about what we’re told with alien nonsense, right? Aliens are these interdimensional entities. The message is always that if you just have a world government, if you just worship us, if you just depopulate, we’ll give you solutions, we’ll give you advanced technology. This is the message of childhood Zen. Remember Arthur C. Clarke was himself, I confess, Krolian. I confess, Luciferian. He had some weird predilections in terms of the pedo stuff, as Alex just talked about this week. And in his book, he actually writes that Karellin, the overlord, is a freaking demon.
He’s got hooves. He looks like a giant demon, and people can’t figure this out. The soy nerds are out there like, it’s science. They’re advanced from another civilization and they’re going to bring me a coon pod and I can just have fun forever. It’s going to be so great. No, it’s a demon dummy. It even looks like a freaking demon and you can’t tell it’s a demon. Come on now. Come on. What is wrong with you people? It’s a massive deception. Now, in scripture we have the story early on in Genesis. It’s implicit in Genesis and then it’s explained later on by chapter three and then as the text progresses, we get the story of before man’s fall, there was another fall. Did you know there was another fall before man fell? That was the angelic fall. And that angelic fall happened outside of time and space, outside of the normal phase of human experience of time. It happened in the spiritual realm, the aeon is what the churchathers called it.
And so the angels, because they don’t exist in time like humans do, they were tested at once. And outside of time, when they fell, it was an instantaneous fall, and angels from every one of those ranks of the nine choirs that are listed in the various texts of Scripture, fell. John says that one third of the angels fell with Satan. And so they launched into this rebellion against God and against humankind. As Dorothy said, they hate humans, why? Well, in Orthodox theology, we understand that they hate human beings because humans are made, not just in the image of God, but also to be raised, as Paul says, above the angels. So there’s a fundamental envy that Satan and his hosts had against man, because man was made in the image of the Logos. In our view, in the garden, it’s man that’s walking around with the Logos, with the pre-incarnate Christ. Man is made in the image of Christ, Adam.
Paul says Adam is after the image of Christ in his letters. So it’s a more specific notion of being made in the image of God, not just in the image of the Trinity, but also in the image of the Logos, the pre-incarnate Logos who would then become incarnate. So man himself in the garden is kind of a prefiguring, a foreshadowing of the incarnation. And thus, Satan’s hatred of humankind results from this envy and desire to destroy the thing that reminds him of his creator, Christ, you see. In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, the Word was God. All things came to be through the logos. Christ is the creator, even of Satan. And so the angelic fall created this race of entities, you could say, angelic race.
Then, Dad set on destroying humankind, at first, until the birth of Christ, to destroy and persecute Israel because Israel would give birth to the Messiah. And then now the church to destroy the church because the church is the body of the Messiah on earth. Read Isaiah. Isaiah is the fifth gospel. So I want to go back to to Dorothy. Dorothy you were talking about the spiritual warfare. When you, before you were interested in these topics, before you had your conversion experience, how did you look upon Christianity? Did you see it as a bunch of goofballs and goobers that were duped and believed a bunch of stupid stuff? Or was it because they didn’t talk about the reality of the spiritual warfare and the reality of what you saw in Hollywood?
Or what was it that, how did you see it before? I saw it the way the world sees it. You know, I couldn’t sit in church and during worship it made me cringe, you know? One or two times I had gone to church I felt completely uncomfortable crawling out of my skin, probably because I was demonized and they really don’t like that, you know. But when you accept Jesus, you give him legal authority over your life. And now you get the veil comes off and you see the truth. And I honestly can’t believe I’m sitting here and I’m saying yes, I read about Jesus and I talk to Jesus and I pray and I know what spiritual warfare is. I love it when the Satanists say, you know, Satanism is just about self-worship. There’s no devil. Yes, there’s a devil and the demons are spirits without bodies, you know, and those that have the eyes to see can see them.
So you’re not crazy, body of Christ. You’re not, you know, and those that have the eyes to see can see them. So you’re not crazy, body of Christ. You’re not, you know, you’re not losing it. You’ve been given a gift that can be uncomfortable to operate in sometimes, but you’re, you know, we’re trying to save as many souls before it’s time to go. And the last thing, one of the last things I wanted to say is no matter what you’ve done, you can still be saved and get delivered. And all sin is the same when it’s nailed to the cross. I mean, Paul was murdering Christians, right? So just remember that when you start to listen to the flaming arrows of the enemy coming into your mind with the shame and the condemnation and the guilt. The devil will lie to you in your own voice and the mind is the battlefield. And if you go into praise and worship, that will break. That’s one tactic. So it’s absolutely real and here I am. I would never go back to my life before Jesus for all the money in the world, for all the fame, for all the dreams, all the fruit that the devil wants to give you is poison for all the dreams, all the fruit that the devil wants to give you is poison, it’s tainted. And the demons always come to collect their pound of flesh. And everything he has is just a sad counterfeit and I would never, my life now is just too good.
Serving God is just so fulfilling. I don’t feel alone and since everyone is feeling so alone and isolated and that’s just an epidemic in our world, maybe they need to try God, because I have a sense of just being loved and cared for and connected with the body of Christ. I will run into people I don’t even know, and we will pray together, and we know that God orchestrated that meeting as a divine appointment that day because someone needed it. So it’s pretty miraculous and supernatural. I mean, I serve an awesome God and I’m still going to play rock and roll. So it’s the best of both worlds. Yeah, well, I mean, you know, David, multiple people in the Old Testament were skilled musicians. So, you know, nothing, there’s nothing wrong. The talents that we have are talents given to us by God, you know, to use for that, for that purpose. So, really cool to have you on. Thank you for giving your testimony, your journey. I think that people should understand that as things get more insane, as we see more and more evil, that’s actually a call to repentance. It’s a call to noticing that there’s objective good, right?
Evil is not a thing that exists or has being in the sense of, you know, everything that God created, it exists as good. And what evil does is that it’s a privation, it’s a negation against the good. It’s always an act against the good. That’s it. That’s all it ever can be. And so, the more that we see evil in the world, it should wake people up, especially people who are skeptics or people who don’t think that, why is there a commonality amongst all of the ancient empires of the world having this anti-human agenda where the empires enact the worship of some weird deity or ruler or tyrant, Nimrod, Babel, and they require human sacrifice. If there’s objective evil, there’s objective good, and that means God exists. This is The Alex Jones Show.